Monday, August 11, 2008

To My Amillenial Friends

Dear Amill people,

Please explain Malachi 4- When did that happen?

Explain to me how John the Baptist was the coming of Elijah predicted when John clearly answers the question, "Are you Elijah?" With, "I am not." John 1:21

And then please render your interpretation of when Revelation 11:1-14 took place.

Leaning further away from Amill,



Craig Heinrich said...

My eschatology is not something I have worked out yet. But would like to play advocate for the opposition as far as John 1:21 with Matthew 17:10-13-

And His disciples asked Him, saying, "Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?"
Jesus answered and said to them, "Indeed, Elijah is coming first and will restore all things.
But I say to you that Elijah has come already, and they did not know him but did to him whatever they wished. Likewise the Son of Man is also about to suffer at their hands."
Then the disciples understood that He spoke to them of John the Baptist.

Joe said...

But notice he says, "Elijah is coming first and will restore all things."

I think he is saying John came, 'in the spirit and power of Elijah' and they rejected him. Just like they will do to Elijah.

Arthur Sido said...

I think the key here would be a physical versus spiritual fulfillment. A physical temple versus the spiritual temple, the land blessings versus the new Jerusalem, the sacrifice in the temple versus the perfect sacrifice of Christ. The spirit of ELijah fulfilling the requirement without the need for a physical appearing of Elijah. The promises of Israel are fulfilled in Christ and the heirs of Abraham are those of faith, not of family.

Joe VonDoloski said...

I understand that desire Arthur, but how in the world do you spiritualize Revelation 11? How in the world could you preach that passage without seeing it in light of something to happen in the future?

Arthur Sido said...

Thus the partial preterist view that some things prophesied in the New Testament were fulfilled shortly after the NT was written. Is it reuqired that all prophetic scripture is both literal and still to be fulfilled.

How do you deal with the fulfillment of all Scriptural promises to Israel in Christ? Do the Isrealites need a literal restoration of the temple?